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	<title>Comments on: Del Mar residents try to ban gun show at the fairgrounds</title>
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		<title>By: Carlsbad resident</title>
		<link>http://www.delmartimes.net/2013/01/07/del-mar-residents-try-to-ban-gun-show-at-the-fairgrounds/#comment-1095008</link>
		<dc:creator>Carlsbad resident</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2013 20:41:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Arguments Gun Advocates Make, and Why They&#039;re Wrong

1) Guns don&#039;t kill people, people kill people.
Maybe, but people with guns kill many, many more people than they would if they didn&#039;t have guns, and guns designed to kill as many people as possible. We don&#039;t know if the murderer in Newtown was suffering from a suicidal depression, but many mass shooters in the past were. And guess what? People suffer from suicidal depression everywhere in the world. People get angry and upset everywhere in the world. But there aren&#039;t mass shootings every few weeks in England or Costa Rica or Japan, and the reason is that people in those places who have these impulses don&#039;t have an easy way to access lethal weapons and unlimited ammunition. But if you want to kill large numbers of people and you happen to be an American, you&#039;ll find it easy to do.

2) The Constitution says I have a right to own guns.
Yes it does, but for some reason gun advocates think that the right to bear arms is the only constitutional right that is virtually without limit. You have the right to practice your religion, but not if your religion involves human sacrifice. You have the right to free speech, but you can still be prosecuted for incitement or conspiracy, and you can be sued for libel. Every right is subject to limitation when it begins to threaten others, and the Supreme Court has affirmed that even though there is an individual right to gun ownership, the government can put reasonable restrictions on that right.

And we all know that if this shooter turns out to have a Muslim name, plenty of Americans, including plenty of gun owners, will be more than happy to give up all kinds of rights in the name of fighting terrorism. Have the government read my email? Have my cell phone company turn over my call records? Check which books I&#039;m taking out of the library? Make me take my shoes off before getting on a plane, just because some idiot tried to blow up his sneakers? Sure, do what you&#039;ve got to do. But don&#039;t make it harder to buy thousands of rounds of ammunition, because if we couldn&#039;t do that we&#039;d no longer be free.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Arguments Gun Advocates Make, and Why They&#8217;re Wrong</p>
<p>1) Guns don&#8217;t kill people, people kill people.<br />
Maybe, but people with guns kill many, many more people than they would if they didn&#8217;t have guns, and guns designed to kill as many people as possible. We don&#8217;t know if the murderer in Newtown was suffering from a suicidal depression, but many mass shooters in the past were. And guess what? People suffer from suicidal depression everywhere in the world. People get angry and upset everywhere in the world. But there aren&#8217;t mass shootings every few weeks in England or Costa Rica or Japan, and the reason is that people in those places who have these impulses don&#8217;t have an easy way to access lethal weapons and unlimited ammunition. But if you want to kill large numbers of people and you happen to be an American, you&#8217;ll find it easy to do.</p>
<p>2) The Constitution says I have a right to own guns.<br />
Yes it does, but for some reason gun advocates think that the right to bear arms is the only constitutional right that is virtually without limit. You have the right to practice your religion, but not if your religion involves human sacrifice. You have the right to free speech, but you can still be prosecuted for incitement or conspiracy, and you can be sued for libel. Every right is subject to limitation when it begins to threaten others, and the Supreme Court has affirmed that even though there is an individual right to gun ownership, the government can put reasonable restrictions on that right.</p>
<p>And we all know that if this shooter turns out to have a Muslim name, plenty of Americans, including plenty of gun owners, will be more than happy to give up all kinds of rights in the name of fighting terrorism. Have the government read my email? Have my cell phone company turn over my call records? Check which books I&#8217;m taking out of the library? Make me take my shoes off before getting on a plane, just because some idiot tried to blow up his sneakers? Sure, do what you&#8217;ve got to do. But don&#8217;t make it harder to buy thousands of rounds of ammunition, because if we couldn&#8217;t do that we&#8217;d no longer be free.</p>
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		<title>By: Carlsbad resident</title>
		<link>http://www.delmartimes.net/2013/01/07/del-mar-residents-try-to-ban-gun-show-at-the-fairgrounds/#comment-1094971</link>
		<dc:creator>Carlsbad resident</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2013 20:24:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is no need for name-calling. This is an open forum and all opinions should be respected.
I will support gun shows when they initiate background checks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is no need for name-calling. This is an open forum and all opinions should be respected.<br />
I will support gun shows when they initiate background checks.</p>
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		<title>By: hubba</title>
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		<dc:creator>hubba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2013 01:32:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To &quot;Local Resident&quot;. It is so typical for a lib such as yourself to make incorrect conclusions based upon nothing more than something you heard. There is no &quot;gun show loop hole&quot; in California. All of you Libs need to quit forming emotional conclusions. Get informed. Try exercising your brain by doing a little research.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To &#8220;Local Resident&#8221;. It is so typical for a lib such as yourself to make incorrect conclusions based upon nothing more than something you heard. There is no &#8220;gun show loop hole&#8221; in California. All of you Libs need to quit forming emotional conclusions. Get informed. Try exercising your brain by doing a little research.</p>
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		<title>By: Local Resident</title>
		<link>http://www.delmartimes.net/2013/01/07/del-mar-residents-try-to-ban-gun-show-at-the-fairgrounds/#comment-1078290</link>
		<dc:creator>Local Resident</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2013 01:12:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The NRA has been trying to deflect blame away from the gun to the shooters. Well the gun-show loophole is a big way that felons, or others who have been deemed unsuitable to own a gun, are able to obtain them,.. that&#039;s why they go to gun shows.
You can say the problem is the shooter and then stand in the way of preventing  &quot;unsuitable people&quot; from being able to buy guns.

Del Mar Fairgrounds should not be supporting this tragic loophole.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The NRA has been trying to deflect blame away from the gun to the shooters. Well the gun-show loophole is a big way that felons, or others who have been deemed unsuitable to own a gun, are able to obtain them,.. that&#8217;s why they go to gun shows.<br />
You can say the problem is the shooter and then stand in the way of preventing  &#8220;unsuitable people&#8221; from being able to buy guns.</p>
<p>Del Mar Fairgrounds should not be supporting this tragic loophole.</p>
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		<title>By: Gary</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jan 2013 21:36:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Russ Hudson---&quot;well regulated&quot; you think we should trust you?  No thanks. California Already has some of the most strict gun laws in the United States but yet in your magor cities like SJ, SF, SD, LA and small communities everywhere--Drug dealers carry Gold plated AK-47 killing Machines and that is with all the strictest CA regulations------So you want to take the guns of law abiding citizen away so only the bad guys have guns?  Russ let take it to the Courts-----Millions and millions of Americans appose you RUSS.  I just Joined the NRA lifetime membership$360 and the CA Branch of the NRA---Russ Hows Boarder Security going?  Hows the war on Drugs going?  You&#039;re full of chyt-------</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Russ Hudson&#8212;&#8221;well regulated&#8221; you think we should trust you?  No thanks. California Already has some of the most strict gun laws in the United States but yet in your magor cities like SJ, SF, SD, LA and small communities everywhere&#8211;Drug dealers carry Gold plated AK-47 killing Machines and that is with all the strictest CA regulations&#8212;&#8212;So you want to take the guns of law abiding citizen away so only the bad guys have guns?  Russ let take it to the Courts&#8212;&#8211;Millions and millions of Americans appose you RUSS.  I just Joined the NRA lifetime membership$360 and the CA Branch of the NRA&#8212;Russ Hows Boarder Security going?  Hows the war on Drugs going?  You&#8217;re full of chyt&#8212;&#8212;-</p>
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		<title>By: Gary</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jan 2013 21:22:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Problem is many many people use guns daily, you may never use a gun ever, but daily people enjoy the use of guns for recreation.  So in your opinion, gun users are a small group.  But your&#039;re wrong.

 After a few incidences of gun violence that are public you blame everyone and even law abiding citizen get punished but the criminal w/ his $5000 gold plated AK 47 human killing machine in LA he&#039;s left out there killing on the streets and progrressive liberal Lawmakers never go after him.  So you are no safer with the stupid laws.

But, once Progressive Liberals get on a crusade it progressively gets worse and worse until they micromanage every aspect of the issue, they don&#039;t know when to quit, but they sure know how to capture the tax dollars.

Thousands want the gun show and 1000s will fight to maintain the Amendment---Your buddy Obama only won by half of the USA---The other half sees his lies and refuses to believe him any longer--you want the tax dollars but you don&#039;t want to share them with the values and interests of all---just your small isolated little group gets the say so.

If the safety of the Children is really your issue then seek out ways to protect children in school and out.  but, my guess is this is an easy target and you don&#039;t really want to protect the children you just want to limit the rights of others----Couched in a statement about child safety-</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Problem is many many people use guns daily, you may never use a gun ever, but daily people enjoy the use of guns for recreation.  So in your opinion, gun users are a small group.  But your&#8217;re wrong.</p>
<p> After a few incidences of gun violence that are public you blame everyone and even law abiding citizen get punished but the criminal w/ his $5000 gold plated AK 47 human killing machine in LA he&#8217;s left out there killing on the streets and progrressive liberal Lawmakers never go after him.  So you are no safer with the stupid laws.</p>
<p>But, once Progressive Liberals get on a crusade it progressively gets worse and worse until they micromanage every aspect of the issue, they don&#8217;t know when to quit, but they sure know how to capture the tax dollars.</p>
<p>Thousands want the gun show and 1000s will fight to maintain the Amendment&#8212;Your buddy Obama only won by half of the USA&#8212;The other half sees his lies and refuses to believe him any longer&#8211;you want the tax dollars but you don&#8217;t want to share them with the values and interests of all&#8212;just your small isolated little group gets the say so.</p>
<p>If the safety of the Children is really your issue then seek out ways to protect children in school and out.  but, my guess is this is an easy target and you don&#8217;t really want to protect the children you just want to limit the rights of others&#8212;-Couched in a statement about child safety-</p>
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		<title>By: Republican</title>
		<link>http://www.delmartimes.net/2013/01/07/del-mar-residents-try-to-ban-gun-show-at-the-fairgrounds/#comment-1062266</link>
		<dc:creator>Republican</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2013 00:33:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Holliday,
How about instead of trying to infringe on my 2nd amendment rights to make you happy you move your liberal butt to one of those other promised lands that have banned guns.

2nd amendment advocates we need to start our own petition to keep the gun show at Del Mar. Anyone know of one?

Better yet we should file a class action suit against Holliday if our rights are infringed on!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Holliday,<br />
How about instead of trying to infringe on my 2nd amendment rights to make you happy you move your liberal butt to one of those other promised lands that have banned guns.</p>
<p>2nd amendment advocates we need to start our own petition to keep the gun show at Del Mar. Anyone know of one?</p>
<p>Better yet we should file a class action suit against Holliday if our rights are infringed on!</p>
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		<title>By: Russ Hudson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Russ Hudson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2013 21:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sign me up to be a protester!  We&#039;ve got to stand up against these ignorant teabillies that really don&#039;t know the Constitution as they proclaim to.The entire amendment is essentially giving states the right to have their own citizens militia. So yes, the amendment is giving Americans the right to own a gun, but it’s to be a gun that’s meant as part of the armament of a well-regulated militia. Hone in on those words. Well-regulated.  These gun-nuts don&#039;t know what that means.  How many more gun accidents/mass shootings/crimes of passion do we have to go through before Americans wake up to the $$ oriented gun lobbyists?!  Shame on you, NRA!  Shame on you gun nuts!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sign me up to be a protester!  We&#8217;ve got to stand up against these ignorant teabillies that really don&#8217;t know the Constitution as they proclaim to.The entire amendment is essentially giving states the right to have their own citizens militia. So yes, the amendment is giving Americans the right to own a gun, but it’s to be a gun that’s meant as part of the armament of a well-regulated militia. Hone in on those words. Well-regulated.  These gun-nuts don&#8217;t know what that means.  How many more gun accidents/mass shootings/crimes of passion do we have to go through before Americans wake up to the $$ oriented gun lobbyists?!  Shame on you, NRA!  Shame on you gun nuts!!</p>
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		<title>By: Rose</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2013 04:14:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Del Mar would love the whole fair grounds to be changed into something else so it seems to me that they will use the shootings and the guns as a starting point to dismantle the Del Mar Fair and fair grounds. Oh sorry </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Del Mar would love the whole fair grounds to be changed into something else so it seems to me that they will use the shootings and the guns as a starting point to dismantle the Del Mar Fair and fair grounds. Oh sorry</p>
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		<title>By: Rose</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2013 00:07:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Del Mar would love the whole fair grounds to be changed into something else so it seems to me that they will use the shootings and the guns as a starting point to dismantle the Del Mar Fair and fair grounds. Oh sorry, the San Diego Fair. I am sure that this lady is sincere but once the things she enjoys start to get regulated beyond belief or taken away her store will change. The world will never be 100% safe until all humans are gone. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Del Mar would love the whole fair grounds to be changed into something else so it seems to me that they will use the shootings and the guns as a starting point to dismantle the Del Mar Fair and fair grounds. Oh sorry, the San Diego Fair. I am sure that this lady is sincere but once the things she enjoys start to get regulated beyond belief or taken away her store will change. The world will never be 100% safe until all humans are gone.</p>
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